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<h3>Topic: <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html">forge vs rustc-dev-guide</a></h3>

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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195621482" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195621482">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe we can have a discussion about this here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195621600" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195621600">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>I've talked with <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> about this a while ago</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195621661" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195621661">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:22)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> going to paste what I could find searching ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195621691" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195621691">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>Might though has always been:<br>
relevant to team members -&gt; forge<br>
relevant to random contributors -&gt; guide</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195621711" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195621711">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:23)</a>:</h4>
<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span><code>nikomatsakis: I&#39;m in favor of forge for documenting &quot;team procedure&quot;
nikomatsakis: rustc-guide for explaining how rustc works
nikomatsakis: some of these things are kind of in the middle so they could probably go either place but
nikomatsakis: if they go on forge, I think we should link to them aggressively from rustc-guide
nikomatsakis: e.g., if we are walking through an average contribution, we might also kick off the section -- and end it -- with links to the forge
nikomatsakis: and vice versa if we opted for rustc-guide
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195621789" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195621789">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I guess the most important thing is I think rustc-dev-guide should be just about explaining how rustc works</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195621884" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195621884">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>I agree with what Niko have said, I'm a little bit less certain about what exactly belongs in forge</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195621928" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195621928">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, like, team procedures</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195621943" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195621943">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>but what else exactly?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195621984" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195621984">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>also ... we have ICE-breakers in rustc-guide, I don't think that should go there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195621994" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195621994">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's not about explaining how rustc works</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195622075" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195622075">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, we also have info about what the t-compiler is</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195622086" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195622086">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>what I'd do is have in rustc-dev-guide a contributing to rust section that explains some ways to join and link to these procedures that maybe live in forge</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195622100" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195622100">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>and how to stabilize features</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195622124" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195622124">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:26)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide/near/195622075" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide/near/195622075">said</a>:</p>
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<p>Yeah, we also have info about what the t-compiler is</p>
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<p>exactly, these things don't go in rustc-dev-guide in my opinion</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195622139" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195622139">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>or forge or compiler-team repo I'd say</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195622163" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195622163">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess I disagree</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195622208" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195622208">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>I feel like that's the sort of info about "how things work" that is useful to contributors</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195622267" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195622267">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>It doesn't need to be in detail, but it should explain how to do stuff that contributors normally need to do</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195622338" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195622338">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>I would argue that interacting with t-compiler or stabilizing features is within that scope</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195622513" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195622513">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>in that case we should put a bunch of more things in rustc-dev-guide, like how homu, bors and a bunch of other things work</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195622692" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195622692">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>am with <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> here... dev-guide could get sprawling (and already is)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195622702" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195622702">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was trying to read the rustc-dev-guide slowly kind of from cover to cover</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195622747" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195622747">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>I like niko comment that we can follow option of linking aggressively</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195622750" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195622750">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>and I think we could make somethings that looks more like a book</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195622780" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195622780">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>which you can actually read from cover to cover in order to understand how the compiler works</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195622894" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195622894">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>and a lot of procedures and things like that I think doesn't help if we try to accomplish something like that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195622919" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195622919">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>agreed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195622943" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195622943">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm... I guess I've always though more of the guide as a reference document than a book... a contributor's one-stop shopping for anything they could possibly need to know</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195622963" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195622963">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>well we may always move certain things to appendices or something and still making them look like a book or something readable from beginning to end</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195623027" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195623027">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:33)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide/near/195622943" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide/near/195622943">said</a>:</p>
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<p>hmm... I guess I've always though more of the guide as a reference document than a book... a contributor's one-stop shopping for anything they could possibly need to know</p>
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<p>well there are some parts that are like that, but once you jump into how the compiler works it may make sense to do from beginning to end</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195623094" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195623094">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>all the new organization that mainly you've layed out also helps in that regard in my opinion</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195623169" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195623169">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>from part 2 on is waaay more readable</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195623206" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195623206">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway, I guess this goes back to maybe defining a bit better what do we think is the purpose of the guide</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195623270" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195623270">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:35)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide/near/195622943" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide/near/195622943">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>hmm... I guess I've always though more of the guide as a reference document than a book... a contributor's one-stop shopping for anything they could possibly need to know</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I think at some point that was my expectation, then I found out about forge</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195623367" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195623367">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>also, who maintains the forge?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195623373" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195623373">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>one thing that seems clear to me is that we could tidy up things a bit better between what's in compiler-team, forge and rustc-dev-guide</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195623446" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195623446">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:36)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="119529">Tshepang Lekhonkhobe</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide/near/195623367" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide/near/195623367">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>also, who maintains the forge?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>doesn't seem to have its own wg</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195623499" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195623499">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>no, i think it is mostly maintained by the infra and release teams</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195623522" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195623522">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>as most of the things in there are relevant to them iirc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195623558" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195623558">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, it's more something that is cross team relevant I also guess</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195623656" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195623656">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>another possibility is to leave rustc-dev-guide without these procedures and things and move all that stuff to compiler-team</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195623657" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195623657">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>so here is another idea:<br>
what if we split the guide into 2 halves: first half reads more like a book and the second half is more of a reference</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195623676" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195623676">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>although, I can see the second half getting messy fast</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195623694" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195623694">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah that's also a possibility</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195623726" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195623726">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd say, let's defer this decision until we lay out some organization ideas in the document</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195623740" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195623740">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess with concrete stuff things will be more clear</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/195625187" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#195625187">(Apr 28 2020 at 20:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>I updated the doc (<a href="https://hackmd.io/5BnDamiMSFOO8A_S5xggYQ" title="https://hackmd.io/5BnDamiMSFOO8A_S5xggYQ">https://hackmd.io/5BnDamiMSFOO8A_S5xggYQ</a>) with what I'm thinking. Let me know what you think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/196788931" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#196788931">(May 07 2020 at 15:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>Did anyone have thoughts about ^^^?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/196789094" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#196789094">(May 07 2020 at 15:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>Also, there seems to be a general feeling (that I am willing to go along with) that we should try to move stuff out of the guide (see also <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/forge.20vs.20compiler-team.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide" title="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/forge.20vs.20compiler-team.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide">https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/forge.20vs.20compiler-team.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide</a>)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/196804968" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#196804968">(May 07 2020 at 17:36)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span> I think I'd try to sketch a solution for this, maybe next week I have time to dive into it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/196804992" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#196804992">(May 07 2020 at 17:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>like propose some changes and talk over concrete things</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/196805032" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#196805032">(May 07 2020 at 17:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>what do you think? if you want we can coordinate and do this together</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/196837578" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#196837578">(May 07 2020 at 22:19)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> sure, I'm curious to see what your thinking of</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/196838295" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#196838295">(May 07 2020 at 22:28)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span> do you want to schedule something on the calendar to go over this together?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/196838313" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#196838313">(May 07 2020 at 22:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>if so, could be next week</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/196912549" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#196912549">(May 08 2020 at 15:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>Sure, we can do that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/196912600" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#196912600">(May 08 2020 at 15:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>Next week works for me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/196912643" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#196912643">(May 08 2020 at 15:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>(lol, perhaps we should have kept the 2-week meetings :P)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197295736" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197295736">(May 12 2020 at 15:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh, now I'm remembering the conversation! sorry!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197295904" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197295904">(May 12 2020 at 15:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>Perhaps we can go through the above and linked HackMD and propose something?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197326664" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197326664">(May 12 2020 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hi <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197326672" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197326672">(May 12 2020 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>hi</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197326674" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197326674">(May 12 2020 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>ready?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197326679" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197326679">(May 12 2020 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197326700" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197326700">(May 12 2020 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>so how do you want to approach this?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197326702" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197326702">(May 12 2020 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was starting to read some of the things we've discussed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197326890" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197326890">(May 12 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>let me read this <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/forge.20vs.20compiler-team.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide">https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/forge.20vs.20compiler-team.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide</a> first</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197326931" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197326931">(May 12 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>sure, perhaps we can collect the links in the hackmd?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197326944" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197326944">(May 12 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://hackmd.io/5BnDamiMSFOO8A_S5xggYQ?both">https://hackmd.io/5BnDamiMSFOO8A_S5xggYQ?both</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197327325" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197327325">(May 12 2020 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok back</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197327344" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197327344">(May 12 2020 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>so I guess the main thing we need to define first is:</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197327375" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197327375">(May 12 2020 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>what belongs to forge, what belongs to compiler-team and what belongs to rustc-dev-guide</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197327390" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197327390">(May 12 2020 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>I meant, where is exactly the line</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197327439" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197327439">(May 12 2020 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>perhaps we can start with a related question: what is the expected audience of each resource?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197327448" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197327448">(May 12 2020 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>some of the thoughts I've read on that topic seem to point more or less in the following direction ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197327526" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197327526">(May 12 2020 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>forge: documenting team procedures<br>
rustc-dev-guide: explaining how rustc works<br>
compiler-team: things that are not procedures, getting involved and stuff like that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197327533" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197327533">(May 12 2020 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide/near/197327439">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>perhaps we can start with a related question: what is the expected audience of each resource?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>yes, this is also a good question</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197327563" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197327563">(May 12 2020 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>also, in the thread people were saying that maybe compiler-team should be deprecated in favor of forge</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197327746" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197327746">(May 12 2020 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think an approach I like is:</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197327772" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197327772">(May 12 2020 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<ol>
<li>leave forge as documentation of procedures in general and compiler in particular, and with that reasoning we should move some stuff from compiler-team and rustc-dev-guide to forge</li>
</ol>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197327875" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197327875">(May 12 2020 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<ol start="2">
<li>leave compiler-team for contributing and getting involved like information. So we may also move some rustc-dev-guide there and from rustc-dev-guide we can keep that information shorter and link there.</li>
</ol>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197327958" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197327958">(May 12 2020 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>at least this as a first step and if we want to deprecate compiler-team in favor of forge we can do it as a second step but would be better to first come up with something that looks a bit better and organized and then it will be easier to see what makes most sense</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197328031" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197328031">(May 12 2020 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<ol start="3">
<li>leave rustc-dev-guide as how rustc works in general, so we would be moving what I've mentioned in 1 and 2</li>
</ol>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197328049" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197328049">(May 12 2020 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>this would be my high level idea of this</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197328055" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197328055">(May 12 2020 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span> what do you think?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197328209" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197328209">(May 12 2020 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>just so we are on the same page, I guess in my mind I've always broken it down as follows:</p>
<ul>
<li>forge: primary audience is t-release/t-infra, so it contains things they need, and nobody else really goes there</li>
<li>rustc-dev-guide: audience is contributors to rustc and std/core/alloc, and should make it as easy as possible for new comers</li>
<li>compiler-team: primarily for the t-compiler to self-organize. Most people don't go there/don't know it exists. And TBH, I don't really know why it exists either?</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197328300" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197328300">(May 12 2020 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>But I feel like the audience question needs to be central. Otherwise, what are we optimizing for?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197328357" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197328357">(May 12 2020 at 19:45)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197328369" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197328369">(May 12 2020 at 19:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>so I see where we differ here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197328414" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197328414">(May 12 2020 at 19:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>my understanding of forge originally was exactly the same as yours</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197328425" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197328425">(May 12 2020 at 19:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I think that idea has changed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197328449" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197328449">(May 12 2020 at 19:45)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Welcome to the Rust Forge! Rust Forge serves as a repository of supplementary documentation useful for members of The Rust Programming Language. If you find any mistakes, typos, or want to add to the Rust Forge, feel free to file an issue or PR on the Rust Forge GitHub.</p>
</blockquote>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197328513" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197328513">(May 12 2020 at 19:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>and also ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197328541" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197328541">(May 12 2020 at 19:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>there's a full compiler section there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197328543" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197328543">(May 12 2020 at 19:46)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://forge.rust-lang.org/compiler/index.html">https://forge.rust-lang.org/compiler/index.html</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197328572" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197328572">(May 12 2020 at 19:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>forge right now is more like a general procedures site about all the teams</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197328636" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197328636">(May 12 2020 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>there's cross-compilation, review policies about prs</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197328639" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197328639">(May 12 2020 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>is that what we want it to be?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197328644" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197328644">(May 12 2020 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>and things like that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197328668" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197328668">(May 12 2020 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>i.e. should we move more in that direction by moving stuff from the guide?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197328670" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197328670">(May 12 2020 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>unsure who is we ? :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197328706" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197328706">(May 12 2020 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>I personally would answer yes to both questions</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197328837" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197328837">(May 12 2020 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>and my guess seeing the content we have on forge and some of the things that <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> and <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> have done and said, I guess that's what we want</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197328863" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197328863">(May 12 2020 at 19:49)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide/near/197328670">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>unsure who is we ? :)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>that's also a great question? i would say perhaps "the rust teams in general"? but especially wg-rustc-dev-guide, since we would be moving some of our stuff there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197328890" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197328890">(May 12 2020 at 19:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>i.e. would the wg be taking on responsibility for some of the content on the forge?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197328939" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197328939">(May 12 2020 at 19:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't think so</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329023" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329023">(May 12 2020 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think the procedures we have on the guide that would be moved there would end being maintained by all of us</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329038" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329038">(May 12 2020 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>well in some senses the same applies to the guide :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329050" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329050">(May 12 2020 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>I see</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329051" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329051">(May 12 2020 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>we should all be responsible for it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329095" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329095">(May 12 2020 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>but if we take a look at forge is clearly about procedures</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329101" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329101">(May 12 2020 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>including compiler procedures</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329105" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329105">(May 12 2020 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>like even reviewing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329114" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329114">(May 12 2020 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>so I'd say stabilizing goes there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329124" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329124">(May 12 2020 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>and other things like</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329156" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329156">(May 12 2020 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/compiler-team/procedures/crates/">https://rust-lang.github.io/compiler-team/procedures/crates/</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329255" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329255">(May 12 2020 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hmm... but all of the procedures I see there are ones that tend to be done by team members, right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329329" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329329">(May 12 2020 at 19:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>what do you mean exactly?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329343" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329343">(May 12 2020 at 19:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>procedures on forge?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329347" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329347">(May 12 2020 at 19:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329375" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329375">(May 12 2020 at 19:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>you're saying that procedures on forge are mainly about things that members do?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329379" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329379">(May 12 2020 at 19:53)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329156">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/compiler-team/procedures/crates/">https://rust-lang.github.io/compiler-team/procedures/crates/</a></p>
</blockquote>
<p>I think I agree that this should go in the forge instead</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329396" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329396">(May 12 2020 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329375">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>you're saying that procedures on forge are mainly about things that members do?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>yes, that's my impression</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329463" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329463">(May 12 2020 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I think it may be room for things that can be done by members and non-members too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329504" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329504">(May 12 2020 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm more and more starting to be convinced about ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329527" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329527">(May 12 2020 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide/near/197327526">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>forge: documenting team procedures<br>
rustc-dev-guide: explaining how rustc works<br>
compiler-team: things that are not procedures, getting involved and stuff like that</p>
</blockquote>
<p><span aria-label="point up" class="emoji emoji-1f446" role="img" title="point up">:point_up:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329564" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329564">(May 12 2020 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>at least to try to come up with PRs and discuss it with concrete changes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329565" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329565">(May 12 2020 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>but an average contributor wouldn't go to the forge for much currently, right? so we would be changing that. Or am I misunderstanding you?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329667" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329667">(May 12 2020 at 19:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think as a contributor you would go to rustc-dev-guide to understand how the compiler works and then search for more stuff elsewhere</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329681" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329681">(May 12 2020 at 19:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>like even coming to Zulip</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329728" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329728">(May 12 2020 at 19:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>and also, a contributor would quickly need to know about bors, homu, etc and you'll need to find that on forge anyway</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329775" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329775">(May 12 2020 at 19:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess I still keep coming back to the same audience question: I feel it would not be good to mix what the compiler team needs and what a random contributor needs...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329817" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329817">(May 12 2020 at 19:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>e.g. I don't think I have ever read the bors/homu forge page</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329843" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329843">(May 12 2020 at 19:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>I just figured it out from watching github</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329860" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329860">(May 12 2020 at 19:57)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>I think as a contributor you would go to rustc-dev-guide to understand how the compiler works and then search for more stuff elsewhere</p>
</blockquote>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329949" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329949">(May 12 2020 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think, this is actually something I don't want.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329996" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329996">(May 12 2020 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>In particular, the "searching for stuff elsewhere" is very frustrating as an outsider</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197329997" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197329997">(May 12 2020 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>I understand your point and I see how are you looking at this issue</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330072" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330072">(May 12 2020 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>because I don't know where stuff will be. It can be in a billion different places</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330112" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330112">(May 12 2020 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, so, I said a confusing phrase there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330121" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330121">(May 12 2020 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think we should link from the guide elsewhere</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330143" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330143">(May 12 2020 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>when needed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330149" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330149">(May 12 2020 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>of course that makes a lot of sense</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330287" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330287">(May 12 2020 at 20:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>so I guess we are seeing this issue from different angles</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330346" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330346">(May 12 2020 at 20:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>if I'm understanding correctly you're more on the let's have all the contributing material on rustc-dev-guide</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330419" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330419">(May 12 2020 at 20:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>and I'm more about trying to give more cohesion to our materials :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330556" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330556">(May 12 2020 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hmm yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330568" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330568">(May 12 2020 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>unsure what to do with that :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330576" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330576">(May 12 2020 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>And there seems to be a tradeoff:</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330588" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330588">(May 12 2020 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>have a lot of really focused resources</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330609" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330609">(May 12 2020 at 20:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>or have one big "everything is here" doc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330640" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330640">(May 12 2020 at 20:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes BUT</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330651" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330651">(May 12 2020 at 20:03)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330588">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>have a lot of really focused resources</p>
</blockquote>
<p>disagree with this</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330660" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330660">(May 12 2020 at 20:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wouldn't want to have a lot of really focused resources</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330670" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330670">(May 12 2020 at 20:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's just 2 resources</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330680" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330680">(May 12 2020 at 20:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>rustc-dev-guide and forge</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330691" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330691">(May 12 2020 at 20:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>right now I think our materials are a bit messy</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330695" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330695">(May 12 2020 at 20:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>well, 3 if we have compiler-team</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330765" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330765">(May 12 2020 at 20:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>but we also have gh, discord, zulip</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330769" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330769">(May 12 2020 at 20:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>which are kind of resources too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330795" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330795">(May 12 2020 at 20:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah but compiler-team could even be deprecated in favor of forge and it exist anyway</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330799" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330799">(May 12 2020 at 20:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>:)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330815" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330815">(May 12 2020 at 20:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>perhaps that's not the same thing, but I think it adds to my sense of too many sources of info</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330848" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330848">(May 12 2020 at 20:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>Sure, so I think we agree on that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330895" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330895">(May 12 2020 at 20:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>So we should focus on forge vs guide and not move anything else to compiler-team?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330917" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330917">(May 12 2020 at 20:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>so my ideal final pictures is, a more focused on let's learn about how rustc works in rustc-dev-guide and that guide can also talk about contributing, getting involved, but that's not the focus</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197330968" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197330968">(May 12 2020 at 20:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>it should even mention forge and link to it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331004" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331004">(May 12 2020 at 20:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>so what I'm suggesting is more general info about procedures and links to forge</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331024" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331024">(May 12 2020 at 20:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>Can you talk a bit more about what level of detail would be in the guide?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331032" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331032">(May 12 2020 at 20:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>then forge having the rest of the procedures and also the getting involved sections</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331071" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331071">(May 12 2020 at 20:07)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331024">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Can you talk a bit more about what level of detail would be in the guide?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I wouldn't change it that much to be honest</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331073" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331073">(May 12 2020 at 20:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>let me check</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331074" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331074">(May 12 2020 at 20:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>e.g. would it be a part 1 (like we have now) but stripped down?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331089" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331089">(May 12 2020 at 20:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, mainly remove things from part 1</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331098" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331098">(May 12 2020 at 20:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>move those to forge</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331107" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331107">(May 12 2020 at 20:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>not all of them</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331110" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331110">(May 12 2020 at 20:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>let me check</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331206" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331206">(May 12 2020 at 20:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>in that case, it might make sense to have a new forge section specifically for contributors</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331223" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331223">(May 12 2020 at 20:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331230" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331230">(May 12 2020 at 20:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>but specifically</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331246" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331246">(May 12 2020 at 20:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>would move this one <a href="https://rustc-dev-guide.rust-lang.org/stabilization_guide.html">https://rustc-dev-guide.rust-lang.org/stabilization_guide.html</a> out</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331297" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331297">(May 12 2020 at 20:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>this one <a href="https://rustc-dev-guide.rust-lang.org/stability.html">https://rustc-dev-guide.rust-lang.org/stability.html</a> maybe not but maybe we want that in a different part of the guide</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331299" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331299">(May 12 2020 at 20:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>unsure</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331338" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331338">(May 12 2020 at 20:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>was looking at <a href="https://rustc-dev-guide.rust-lang.org/conventions.html">https://rustc-dev-guide.rust-lang.org/conventions.html</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331346" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331346">(May 12 2020 at 20:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>stabilization is an interesting example, because it was one of the first things I moved from the forge to the guide</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331348" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331348">(May 12 2020 at 20:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>so to be honest I'm not 100% sure what to do with those</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331359" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331359">(May 12 2020 at 20:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>it may be on an appendix</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331423" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331423">(May 12 2020 at 20:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>what I don't want these things is to be so central</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331478" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331478">(May 12 2020 at 20:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>or perhaps the problem is that those sections discuss places were the code and the procedures interact</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331485" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331485">(May 12 2020 at 20:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's one of the first things you read in the guide</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331593" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331593">(May 12 2020 at 20:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>Question: so what about the chapters about how to build the compiler?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331664" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331664">(May 12 2020 at 20:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>Or how to debug?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331678" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331678">(May 12 2020 at 20:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>we should keep those</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331760" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331760">(May 12 2020 at 20:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>They are more of reference material... i.e. probably not something you would want to read through, but definitely useful</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331799" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331799">(May 12 2020 at 20:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331897" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331897">(May 12 2020 at 20:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>So at the bottom of this doc: <a href="https://hackmd.io/5BnDamiMSFOO8A_S5xggYQ?both">https://hackmd.io/5BnDamiMSFOO8A_S5xggYQ?both</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197331953" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197331953">(May 12 2020 at 20:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>I had made a proposal where I split part 1 into two appendix-like parts</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197332003" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197332003">(May 12 2020 at 20:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>"Building and Debugging" and "Contributing to rustc"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197332077" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197332077">(May 12 2020 at 20:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>Perhaps it make sense to move the latter into the forge and keep the former as a last Reference part of the guide</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197332092" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197332092">(May 12 2020 at 20:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197332240" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197332240">(May 12 2020 at 20:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>so yeah I like this a bit better</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197332303" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197332303">(May 12 2020 at 20:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>unsure if building and debugging needs to be an appendix, it can be a full normal section</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197332310" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197332310">(May 12 2020 at 20:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I think it's better at the end</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197332412" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197332412">(May 12 2020 at 20:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess if we are working towards a guide that one would just read beginning to end, it seems hard to make it a normal section</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197332417" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197332417">(May 12 2020 at 20:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>with the proposed structure I'm 99% fine :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197332433" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197332433">(May 12 2020 at 20:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>(e.g. I would find it very boring)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197332523" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197332523">(May 12 2020 at 20:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>let me update the hackmd with the proposal</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197332795" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197332795">(May 12 2020 at 20:18)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span> should we remove the move to forge section?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197332819" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197332819">(May 12 2020 at 20:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>well I'm not sure if all that stuff is something we wanted to do</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197332871" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197332871">(May 12 2020 at 20:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think we can keep it while we are plannign</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197332886" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197332886">(May 12 2020 at 20:19)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197332892" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197332892">(May 12 2020 at 20:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>so we can easily move stuff around</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197333116" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197333116">(May 12 2020 at 20:20)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> So if we agree on this rough proposed structure, perhaps we can now discuss some more of the details?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197333146" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197333146">(May 12 2020 at 20:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197333152" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197333152">(May 12 2020 at 20:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>also, I think in this version, I have moved some other stuff around... not 100% sure</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197333374" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197333374">(May 12 2020 at 20:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>so if we start with this proposed structure</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197333396" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197333396">(May 12 2020 at 20:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think we need something before <code>High-level Compiler Architecture</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197333459" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197333459">(May 12 2020 at 20:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>some sort of intro?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197333467" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197333467">(May 12 2020 at 20:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197333482" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197333482">(May 12 2020 at 20:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe some sort of intro</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197333546" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197333546">(May 12 2020 at 20:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe that's also merged with about this guide</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197333577" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197333577">(May 12 2020 at 20:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>something that explains what's the guide about</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197333639" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197333639">(May 12 2020 at 20:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>encourage to contribute</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197333665" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197333665">(May 12 2020 at 20:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hmm... we already have such a section?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197333670" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197333670">(May 12 2020 at 20:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>explain where to find stuff</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197333680" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197333680">(May 12 2020 at 20:24)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://rustc-dev-guide.rust-lang.org/about-this-guide.html">https://rustc-dev-guide.rust-lang.org/about-this-guide.html</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197333695" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197333695">(May 12 2020 at 20:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>We could expand this ^^^</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197333723" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197333723">(May 12 2020 at 20:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197333833" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197333833">(May 12 2020 at 20:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>well maybe it's just that plus some links to contributing?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197333865" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197333865">(May 12 2020 at 20:25)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197333867" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197333867">(May 12 2020 at 20:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>unsure</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197333886" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197333886">(May 12 2020 at 20:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>And this is where we would link to forge?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197333958" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197333958">(May 12 2020 at 20:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197333965" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197333965">(May 12 2020 at 20:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>something like that is what I'd do</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197333985" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197333985">(May 12 2020 at 20:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>not just saying</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197333988" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197333988">(May 12 2020 at 20:26)</a>:</h4>
<p><code>Forge -- contains documentation about rust infrastructure, team procedures, and more</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334007" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334007">(May 12 2020 at 20:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>Right</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334018" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334018">(May 12 2020 at 20:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>but linking specifically to some of the things we may want to move out</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334023" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334023">(May 12 2020 at 20:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>if we do</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334056" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334056">(May 12 2020 at 20:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe it's something like <code>Getting Started</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334084" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334084">(May 12 2020 at 20:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>Question: what about the "walkthrough: a typical contribution" section?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334086" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334086">(May 12 2020 at 20:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>which starts with that about section or something</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334177" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334177">(May 12 2020 at 20:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>so what I think is a <code>Getting Started</code> section may have most of the stuff we already have in part 1</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334181" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334181">(May 12 2020 at 20:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>but in a reduced form</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334191" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334191">(May 12 2020 at 20:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>like, it's important to show how to build</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334196" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334196">(May 12 2020 at 20:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>how to test</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334202" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334202">(May 12 2020 at 20:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>how to open a PR</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334265" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334265">(May 12 2020 at 20:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>but maybe, the stages explanations about building and all our deep building sections may go later in the guide</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334341" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334341">(May 12 2020 at 20:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>also, some that <code>Getting Started</code> may have a contributing section or something like that that points to forge</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334351" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334351">(May 12 2020 at 20:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>sure, we could have the most common 1 or 2 commands/workflows and just point to the other part</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334374" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334374">(May 12 2020 at 20:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>exactly</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334496" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334496">(May 12 2020 at 20:30)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span> we are more or less on time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334535" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334535">(May 12 2020 at 20:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>wondering what should we do now :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334557" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334557">(May 12 2020 at 20:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can keep going if you have time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334578" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334578">(May 12 2020 at 20:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>let's keep it going for a while then</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334605" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334605">(May 12 2020 at 20:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm just updating the hackmd to keep track</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334637" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334637">(May 12 2020 at 20:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>to reduce a bit the scope of our first steps I'd try to come up with a better organization for rustc-dev-guide first</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334715" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334715">(May 12 2020 at 20:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>and maybe move some things to appendices</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334736" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334736">(May 12 2020 at 20:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>we can just focus on that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334750" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334750">(May 12 2020 at 20:31)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334847" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334847">(May 12 2020 at 20:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>once we have a better idea of what we want to do we may just say ... hey appendix W would look better on forge</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334880" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334880">(May 12 2020 at 20:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>Sure</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334885" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334885">(May 12 2020 at 20:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>let's do that then</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334951" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334951">(May 12 2020 at 20:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>Sure, shall we go through the proposed outline chapter by chapter?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334971" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197334971">(May 12 2020 at 20:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>so we are kind of doing what we were supposed to do since a while which is define the structure of the guide <span aria-label="joy" class="emoji emoji-1f602" role="img" title="joy">:joy:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197335023" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197335023">(May 12 2020 at 20:33)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide/near/197334951">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Sure, shall we go through the proposed outline chapter by chapter?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>let me check again the proposed structure</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197335057" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197335057">(May 12 2020 at 20:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>do you think it worth doing that? or just check part one plus this getting started idea?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197335203" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197335203">(May 12 2020 at 20:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess I mildly prefer the proposal since there is already a bit of organization there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197335292" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197335292">(May 12 2020 at 20:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>We can start with the "move to forge" section and decide if we want to move to forge or move to appendix instead?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197335350" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197335350">(May 12 2020 at 20:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>Then go through the chapters at the end of the proposal and the appendices</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197335514" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197335514">(May 12 2020 at 20:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think we misunderstood each other here :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197335515" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197335515">(May 12 2020 at 20:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197335551" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197335551">(May 12 2020 at 20:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes, we should go over the proposal for sure, I didn't mean to say something different</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197335618" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197335618">(May 12 2020 at 20:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>do you mean now or later?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197335621" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197335621">(May 12 2020 at 20:37)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide/near/197335292">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>We can start with the "move to forge" section and decide if we want to move to forge or move to appendix instead?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I'd say, let's start moving all that to appendix as we've said and leave the forge idea for the future</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197335638" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197335638">(May 12 2020 at 20:37)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide/near/197335618">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>do you mean now or later?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>let's do it now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197335640" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197335640">(May 12 2020 at 20:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>if you have time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197335643" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197335643">(May 12 2020 at 20:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>sure</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197335647" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197335647">(May 12 2020 at 20:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>works for me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197335773" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197335773">(May 12 2020 at 20:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok is looking good :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197335819" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197335819">(May 12 2020 at 20:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>There are two more sections I would propose we move to the appendix</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197335855" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197335855">(May 12 2020 at 20:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>"Distribution artifacts"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197335884" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197335884">(May 12 2020 at 20:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>and "Documenting Compiler"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197335909" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197335909">(May 12 2020 at 20:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>Most people don't need to do those.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197335969" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197335969">(May 12 2020 at 20:40)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197335988" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197335988">(May 12 2020 at 20:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>as you've done, let's for now leave a comment for future reference</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336014" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336014">(May 12 2020 at 20:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>you convinced me to not move to forge, now you want to move things to forge? :P :P :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336015" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336015">(May 12 2020 at 20:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh, should I move them in the proposal?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336040" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336040">(May 12 2020 at 20:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>:P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336078" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336078">(May 12 2020 at 20:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>Lol, you've convinced me to move, now you want to not move :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336097" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336097">(May 12 2020 at 20:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>would be great if we end this meeting with you convinced to move to forge and me to not move to forge <span aria-label="joy" class="emoji emoji-1f602" role="img" title="joy">:joy:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336138" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336138">(May 12 2020 at 20:41)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336078">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Lol, you've convinced me to move, now you want to not move :P</p>
</blockquote>
<p>LOL, I seem to be playing a social experiment now :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336156" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336156">(May 12 2020 at 20:41)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="rofl" class="emoji emoji-1f923" role="img" title="rofl">:rofl:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336220" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336220">(May 12 2020 at 20:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>seriously, I want to move things to forge, all I'm saying is let's just note this stuff there and not make decisions now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336223" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336223">(May 12 2020 at 20:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>Lol, I think we are starting to come to a bit more consensus though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336249" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336249">(May 12 2020 at 20:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>Agreed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336251" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336251">(May 12 2020 at 20:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>what I meant to do is to break a bit what we are trying to do into some steps</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336275" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336275">(May 12 2020 at 20:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>because we seem to be doing quite a lot with one shoot</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336290" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336290">(May 12 2020 at 20:42)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336223">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Lol, I think we are starting to come to a bit more consensus though</p>
</blockquote>
<p>definitely</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336308" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336308">(May 12 2020 at 20:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>let's talk about <code>Getting Started</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336356" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336356">(May 12 2020 at 20:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was thinking about it for a bit like</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336390" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336390">(May 12 2020 at 20:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>Getting Started (AKA getting started to contribute to Rustc)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336439" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336439">(May 12 2020 at 20:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>like to me this guide is about, we want you to learn rustc so you can contribute to it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336605" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336605">(May 12 2020 at 20:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes, with some handy tips for working with the compiler source code</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336633" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336633">(May 12 2020 at 20:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>e.g. how to build, debug, profile</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336656" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336656">(May 12 2020 at 20:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah there should go all the setups, preparations, etc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336695" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336695">(May 12 2020 at 20:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>most programming languages book start with installing the language, setting up the editor, links to things that may be useful and things like that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336762" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336762">(May 12 2020 at 20:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>a little section about editors, or settings or things may be nice</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336773" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336773">(May 12 2020 at 20:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>config.toml</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336809" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336809">(May 12 2020 at 20:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>right now I don't remember what do we already have in the guide :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336832" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336832">(May 12 2020 at 20:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>We do have that content in part 1</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336845" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336845">(May 12 2020 at 20:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>but we also have a lot of other stuff</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336848" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336848">(May 12 2020 at 20:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336858" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336858">(May 12 2020 at 20:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336884" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336884">(May 12 2020 at 20:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>what do you think of the "building and debugging rustc" section in the proposal</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336898" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336898">(May 12 2020 at 20:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>is that what you are thinking?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336900" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336900">(May 12 2020 at 20:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was thinking that that section could be just build with most of what's there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336912" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197336912">(May 12 2020 at 20:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>and mainly some todo parts</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197337028" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197337028">(May 12 2020 at 20:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>Do you mean that we would move it to the beginning again?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197337029" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197337029">(May 12 2020 at 20:48)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide/near/197336884">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>what do you think of the "building and debugging rustc" section in the proposal</p>
</blockquote>
<p>let me check again</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197337046" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197337046">(May 12 2020 at 20:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh, i misunderstood</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197337081" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197337081">(May 12 2020 at 20:48)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide/near/197337028">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Do you mean that we would move it to the beginning again?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>no no, I was talking about the getting started, let me check debugging</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197337130" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197337130">(May 12 2020 at 20:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>Why don't we have a :race_condition: emoji?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197337203" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197337203">(May 12 2020 at 20:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>hehehe :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197337245" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197337245">(May 12 2020 at 20:49)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="race" class="emoji emoji-1f3c1" role="img" title="race">:race:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197337386" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197337386">(May 12 2020 at 20:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>about debugging I'm not sure yet, I don't love where it is right now but I don't have better ideas for now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197337393" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197337393">(May 12 2020 at 20:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>the "building and debugging" section seems like too much imho</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197337406" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197337406">(May 12 2020 at 20:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, that's what I meant</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197337435" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197337435">(May 12 2020 at 20:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>the rest of the guide is looking better but that section is not great currently</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197337524" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197337524">(May 12 2020 at 20:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm... i have a few ideas but not really clear</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197337548" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197337548">(May 12 2020 at 20:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah me too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197337591" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197337591">(May 12 2020 at 20:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>so I think that we can try to break that section up</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197337651" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197337651">(May 12 2020 at 20:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's what I was going to say</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197337665" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197337665">(May 12 2020 at 20:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>first of all unsure if I like all that together</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197337715" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197337715">(May 12 2020 at 20:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>the very minimum split I'd do is</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197337732" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197337732">(May 12 2020 at 20:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>building + testing and debugging + profiling</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197337751" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197337751">(May 12 2020 at 20:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>but unsure if I wouldn't break even more</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197337788" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197337788">(May 12 2020 at 20:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>Perhaps for each broken part we can also have an overview that is more readable and a details section that has more reference like info, with a message at the top like "you may want to skip to the next section"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197337939" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197337939">(May 12 2020 at 20:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>e.g. I think the way we build and the way we test is actually an important and interesting as important/interesting as the structure of the compiler</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197338549" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197338549">(May 12 2020 at 20:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>One question: do you see the "Getting Started" section as a single chapter or multiple chapters?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197338590" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197338590">(May 12 2020 at 20:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>If we make it multiple chapters, then perhaps it becomes much like the part 1 we already have?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197338986" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197338986">(May 12 2020 at 21:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was thinking more like one chapter</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197338996" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197338996">(May 12 2020 at 21:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>but unsure, what's your idea?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197339013" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197339013">(May 12 2020 at 21:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, I think we agree on that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197339283" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197339283">(May 12 2020 at 21:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>so ... I think this is a great first iteration</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197339314" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197339314">(May 12 2020 at 21:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think right now it may be hard to continue without just trying to impact those changes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197339342" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197339342">(May 12 2020 at 21:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>because it may be clear what we've left off</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197339373" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197339373">(May 12 2020 at 21:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>also once we open a PR with this change we can get feedback</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197339408" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197339408">(May 12 2020 at 21:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can totally go ahead and cook a PR with this and start discussions based on that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197339473" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197339473">(May 12 2020 at 21:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>but maybe we can just leave this document here for async discussion with the rest of the working group</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197339672" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197339672">(May 12 2020 at 21:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>Sure this seems like a good starting point</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197339766" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197339766">(May 12 2020 at 21:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>A PR might be the easiest way to organize feedback</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197339786" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197339786">(May 12 2020 at 21:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I'm also ok with leaving it in the hackmd for now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197339924" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197339924">(May 12 2020 at 21:10)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> Thanks! I think this has been productive</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197340010" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197340010">(May 12 2020 at 21:11)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span> thanks to you too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197340120" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197340120">(May 12 2020 at 21:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess one thing that I think can still be improved is that it would be good to figure out what to do with all the reference-like material, like the detailed notes on building and testing... but we can leave that for later</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197340163" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197340163">(May 12 2020 at 21:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>agreed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197340188" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197340188">(May 12 2020 at 21:13)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1380">@WG-rustc-dev-guide</span> we were supposed to work or forge vs rustc-dev-guide but if you read the backlog the meeting quickly turned into a discussion about the content of rustc-dev-guide and we ended coming up with this <a href="https://hackmd.io/5BnDamiMSFOO8A_S5xggYQ?edit">https://hackmd.io/5BnDamiMSFOO8A_S5xggYQ?edit</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197340236" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197340236">(May 12 2020 at 21:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>please check it out and let's improve it, I'm going to open a PR about it as soon as we're ok with it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197620955" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197620955">(May 14 2020 at 21:31)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1380">@WG-rustc-dev-guide</span> I wonder if I should just open a PR with these changes or people are reviewing it?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197620973" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197620973">(May 14 2020 at 21:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe we can review from the PR</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge%20vs%20rustc-dev-guide/near/197640927" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/forge.20vs.20rustc-dev-guide.html#197640927">(May 15 2020 at 02:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>sure, if others would find that more useful</p>



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<p>just added my thoughts</p>



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